Curse

Lil Macabre · Feb 14, 2007, 04:45 AM // 04:45

I find it very difficult to do with only 8 seconds of AV or SV. By the time i aggro the graspings and run to a safe spot to kill them, my SV is up? what gives? am i missing something? is everyone else using an 8 second SV? Smits are walk in the park with 8 seconds, but graspings are hell.

Enko · Feb 14, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08

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Originally Posted by Lil Macabre

I find it very difficult to do with only 8 seconds of AV or SV. By the time i aggro the graspings and run to a safe spot to kill them, my SV is up? what gives? am i missing something? is everyone else using an 8 second SV? Smits are walk in the park with 8 seconds, but graspings are hell.

Cast AV/SV after agroing them and running to the safe spot. let them use up their interrupts and then use it. From the first swing you see them take at you (while you're running), you have 10 seconds before the first one recharges so ideally you should get to the safe spot within 3-5 seconds of them getting within range, 2 seconds to wait out the interrupts, and then cast it.

Nya · Feb 14, 2007, 05:50 PM // 17:50

All I can tell you is you're my hero :O

FayeWind · Feb 14, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I need hint in counter skull crack by Darkness. They just daze me as if there's no tomorrow ><.

speedy21589 · Feb 14, 2007, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by FayeWind

I need hint in counter skull crack by Darkness. They just daze me as if there's no tomorrow ><.

The only hint is...you have to kill them before they can get the adrenaline to use skull crack.

With the skill update, that means you have to pull them without putting up SV. Let them waste their distracting blows (helps if you attempt to wand them), then put up SV. Execute the combo; they will probably be left with some health. While they scatter, put up stoneflesh again. Let them waste distracting blows one more time, then use aftershock. Wand to death any remaining graspings. They should not be able to kill you before you wand them to death.

woftam · Feb 15, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

sorry if this has been posted earlier,
but I just relised I do not have Stone Striker,

can it be done without that skill ?
and if so what would you recommend i use instead ?

been doing UW with W/Rt , and now looking for a change :P

thanks in advance .

##edit##
sorry , found way, PvP unlock it and you can buy it then in Kamadan

Snype · Feb 15, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28

cant you just bring 2 ele sf heroes and a heal monk just for the graspings? flag them to the back or kill them and run

am i wrong?

FG2_Eli · Feb 15, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55

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Originally Posted by Snype

cant you just bring 2 ele sf heroes and a heal monk just for the graspings? flag them to the back or kill them and run

am i wrong?

yea you can - you'll have all drops at the smites but the gold will be shared ... afaik

Barghest · Feb 15, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Nice Guide!

What do you think, is this also possible as a Me/E? I don't have an Ele and I don't have Sandstorm, too ^^.

Or is the damage too low with only 12 points in earth so that they will scatter? Or will energy be an issue?

Barghest

My Green Storage · Feb 15, 2007, 09:27 AM // 09:27

Glyph of concentration definately works.

Use that instead of AV (or SV) ... you can also increase energy.
Idea is to go to the top of the stairs, cast your junk with the glyph being the last. Get the aggro, run to a safe spot and do sandstorm / stomp / aftershock.

With the one or 2 left, pray that you can do the glyph again to get stoneflesh back up. Use another damage skill as the 2nd skill from the glyph.

Only thing is it'll take a long ass time to kill the smites if they run out (try to trap them somewhere in a corner), then they spam reversal of fortune and sit far away to heal.

As mentioned.
Tuesday. My only 3 runs.
First run 1 ecto, 1 sapphire. Second run. 4 ectos. Third run. 1 ecto.

Wednesday. 3 successful runs ( like 4 unsucessful because of those bastard nightmares popping up as I get quest!!!) .. 2 ectos

I thought of this on Tuesday.
*MAYBE* in a way the ecto drop increase was to stop eBAY'rs?
I dunno, just came to me as I was in UW.

FayeWind · Feb 15, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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Originally Posted by speedy21589

The only hint is...you have to kill them before they can get the adrenaline to use skull crack.

With the skill update, that means you have to pull them without putting up SV. Let them waste their distracting blows (helps if you attempt to wand them), then put up SV. Execute the combo; they will probably be left with some health. While they scatter, put up stoneflesh again. Let them waste distracting blows one more time, then use aftershock. Wand to death any remaining graspings. They should not be able to kill you before you wand them to death.

I usually put up all enchantment except sv then aggro, after they waste distracting blow, I recast the enchantment and put up sv, when I cast the ss combo, they tend to use distracting blow on me. If I am able to put up the combo, the 2 grapness flee but one remain and this one usually interrupt my stoneflesh. Then they decided to daze me if I cast anything. So I wand them if I am daze (since there's nothing much I can do anyway besides running in circle which I sometimes do too). ><

FayeWind · Feb 15, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by My Green Storage

Glyph of concentration definately works.

Use that instead of AV (or SV) ... you can also increase energy.
Idea is to go to the top of the stairs, cast your junk with the glyph being the last. Get the aggro, run to a safe spot and do sandstorm / stomp / aftershock.

With the one or 2 left, pray that you can do the glyph again to get stoneflesh back up. Use another damage skill as the 2nd skill from the glyph.

Only thing is it'll take a long ass time to kill the smites if they run out (try to trap them somewhere in a corner), then they spam reversal of fortune and sit far away to heal.

As mentioned.
Tuesday. My only 3 runs.
First run 1 ecto, 1 sapphire. Second run. 4 ectos. Third run. 1 ecto.

Wednesday. 3 successful runs ( like 4 unsucessful because of those bastard nightmares popping up as I get quest!!!) .. 2 ectos

I thought of this on Tuesday.
*MAYBE* in a way the ecto drop increase was to stop eBAY'rs?
I dunno, just came to me as I was in UW.

Just a suggestion. Do you think using mantra of resolve in replace of SV will work? put up that stance (won't get interrupt 100% guarantee) and then cast stoneflesh aura, then change to mantra of earth stance for energy). What do you think?

Marverick · Feb 15, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Don't you need SV to stop smites from healing themselves?

MrSlayer · Feb 15, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

They die pretty fast, but without SV they might manage to pop up a reversal of fortune or two.

Or the other problem...the Graspings will be able to interrupt your Sandstorm etc.

FG2_Eli · Feb 16, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by FayeWind

Just a suggestion. Do you think using mantra of resolve in replace of SV will work? put up that stance (won't get interrupt 100% guarantee) and then cast stoneflesh aura, then change to mantra of earth stance for energy). What do you think?

this is how i tried deadsword farming - it works , but as said above the smites might be able to survive it - especially when u lured more than three it can make ur run much longer ...
maybe that u can kill grasps faster - the only problem i see there when they get enough adrenalin for fear me / skull crack ... with resolve u can run out of energy duing the sandstorm-eq-aq-combo ...

skinnydarn · Feb 16, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45

first of all nice build koning. i found a version on wiki for all those struggling with the graspings interupts switch stone striker and mantra of earth for glyph of lesser energy and mantra of resolve. jst aggro as normal, cast av as soon as they are round you, glyph and then use sandstorm earthquake and aftershock.... for this you would have 7 illusion and 8 insp instead

«Ripskin · Feb 16, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

And what is the link for this?

Evilsod · Feb 17, 2007, 02:23 AM // 02:23

I just dropped Mantra of Earth and decided on Glyph of Ele Power instead. Drops the smites in 1. Only becomes a problem when they flee before the Earthquake hits and you end up having to wait a while to regen energy.

Can always run Channeling though instead of Stone Striker. You get a -37 Stoneflesh w/ GoEP so the Stone Striker makes no difference really.

«Ripskin · Feb 17, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

And if you ran channeling instead you could run mantra of resolve... Which makes all my problems disapear!! zomg!

But wouldn't you take damage from graspings?

Evilsod · Feb 17, 2007, 02:53 AM // 02:53

Even if you took 1-3 damage every few hits from the Grasping you'd still have to tank them for well over 5-10 minutes for it to actually kill you. Chances are either you or them died before the end of the first 60 seconds.

The Smites occasionally do 1-4 damage also. But you really shouldn't be tanking them for long enough that they actually kill you... and if you are you can always just S-Djinns Haste away.